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23:11 < mass> is there anyone trying to get cogito to work on bsd?
23:13 < spstarr> it should be easy to port
23:14 < mass> tons of test failures due to the scripts relying on gnu extensions to tools
23:14 < mass> like sort -z
23:15 < njs> gsort
23:16 * mass silently shakes fist
23:16 < mass> :)
23:16 < njs> :-)
23:16 < spstarr> heh
23:17 < mass> this is actually mac os x, I'll have to find a source for gsort
23:19 < njs> idle curiousity: why do you want to use git on osx?
23:20 < mass> because I do my development on the mac (not kernel dev)
23:20 < mass> and want to learn more about how git and cogito work
23:20 < njs> nod
23:20 < mass> I'd just work from my linux server, but I actually am investigating this so I can "work offline" while on the road
23:21 < mass> if I can't get gsort quickly though, I think I'll just grab a prepackaged ver of darcs :)
23:22 < njs> heh :-)  there's no shortage of distributed VCSes these days, yeah...
23:24 < mass> I blame Linus ;-)
23:24 < njs> eh, why?
23:25 < mass> for making it hip and cool
23:25 < mass> :)
23:26 < njs> git and hg are the only ones that have any direct connection to him... I guess one could argue that he played a role in popularizing BK, but I think the idea was out there (in arch, for instance) before that happened?
23:27 * njs doesn't remember the exact timing back then
23:28 < mass> I think his usage changed other user perception
23:28 < njs> the recent BK fiasco has certainly given everyone a boost in attention and developer resources, though.
23:28 < mass> from "academic" to "possibly desirable"
23:28 < njs> perhaps.
23:28 < mass> I remember long ago working on the linux-usb project
23:28 < mass> or rather, idling on it
23:28 < mass> then one day linus bought a new notebook
23:29 < njs> it's not clear to me; that everyone has hated CVS since the beginning of time, and that everyone has been starting to use laptops, etc., are also clearly factors; hard to know which ones were most critical...
23:29 * mass hears ominous music
23:29 < mass> next thing you know, he starts his own linux usb stack
23:29 < mass> the author gets really pissed off because he has been overdesigning a stack for years
23:30 < mass> but a few days later there is mouse and keyboard support
23:30 < mass> a few more, support for other chipsets, then hid, printers, modems..
23:31 < mass> guess I see that as a parallel to git :)
23:32 < njs> nod
23:34 < njs> I happen to hold the opinion that at least several of the other systems are not overdesigned, and have a huge amount of expertise in them -- there's a long, long learning curve for designing VCS software -- but time will tell :-)
23:35 < mass> I agree :)
23:40 < mass> I wonder if I can remove the dependancy on gsort
23:41 < mass> I suck at shell programming -so- much though
23:41 < njs> rewrite the whole thing in $FAVORITELANG
23:41 < njs> !
23:41 < njs> that's always a good idea, right?
23:42 < mass> ok
23:42 < mass> think people will accept all the shell scripts replaced with java code? :)
23:42 < mass> or C#?
23:42 < njs> hahah
23:43 < mass> or maybe ocaml
23:43 < mass> I've been meaning to learn ocaml
23:44 < mass> I could replace lots of them in C, but I wouldn't want to do that for my own enjoyment :)
23:44 < njs> ocaml seems neat.  I've been meaning to learn it too.
23:45 < mass> it would be something I would want to know would get accepted upstream before I subjected myself to it
23:45 < njs> monotone's best repo browser is actually written in ocaml, strangely enough.  I think the author has even gotten a few patches.  (Though not many.)
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